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		<title>By: Taking Two to Tangelo &#171; The Manhattan Project &#8211; Cocktails</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taking Two to Tangelo &#171; The Manhattan Project &#8211; Cocktails</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] struck me most about this was how well the Peychaud&#8217;s complement the grapefruit juice. As cocktailnerd pointed out, you&#8217;ll definitely want the bitters &#8220;to taste&#8221;, as a major flavour component [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] struck me most about this was how well the Peychaud&#8217;s complement the grapefruit juice. As cocktailnerd pointed out, you&#8217;ll definitely want the bitters &#8220;to taste&#8221;, as a major flavour component [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Parry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Parry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 01:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I took your reply to heart and, while I still had a little bit left in my bottles of Bombay Blue and Plymouth, I bought a bottle of regular Bombay and Beefeater.  I compared these four to Hendricks. Honestly, my goal was to like the Bombay regular and Beefeater the best.
For a price comparison (before tax, all U.S. $ and all 750 ml except the Plymouth which is a one liter) here goes:
Hendricks: $24.99
Plymouth: $23.99
Bombay Blue: $29.99
Bombay: $15.99
Beefeater: $14.99
I tasted all straight at room temperature (I know, I know but I wanted a straight shot right out of the bottle).
Hendricks: damn. smooth, complex (botanicals), creamy(?).  The wifey likey.
I thought all the London drys had an astringent component to one degree or another
Plymouth: sharp, balanced with some bite but not very botanical the wifey say okay but she&#039;ll take the Hendricks.
Bombay Blue: fair amount of alcohol bite but I thought it very complex with botanicals. The wifey likey
Bombay regular: Smooth, low on botanicals not very complex.  Wifey no likey
Beefeater: what the hell?!? Very smooth, light on the botanicals and not very complex. Wifey say, &quot;Weak, gimme some Hendricks.&quot;
Ok, so Gin needs to be mixed - it&#039;s not bourbon and never pretended to be. So, I mixed teeny tiny martinis with 0.5 oz gin, 0.25 dry vermouth (Martini Rossi - I think that this vermouth is not very overpowering and that&#039;s why I used it.  My other vermouth is Noilly Prat which I find more flavourful), one dash of orange bitters (Reagans 6), two ice cubes stired for about 20 seconds and strained. Wifey and I shared (we&#039;re close like that)

Hendricks: Damn, smooth, still creamy and it just tastes rounded not sharp, wifey likey.
Plymouth: smooth, very smooth, ummm, too smooth? Wifey say, &quot;Listen, I&#039;m trying to cut a mango and make sure Cole (our 19 month old) doesn&#039;t do something worthy of his last name with the cat out on the lanai now gimmee my Hendricks&quot;
Bombay Blue: smooth but complex as the botanicals come through
Bombay: actually very nice, smooth, not as complex as the Bombay blue but very drinkable. Wifey likey (has settled down now that the cat has skeedoodled to a safe location).
Beefeater: Hmmm, you know I think there&#039;s a slight difference since I know what&#039;s what but you could swap this out with the Plymouth and I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d complain. Wifey a bit miffed at me since I went ahead and read the last page of her Harry Potter book she got at midnight last night and now I know know how it ends all in the context of the fact that I&#039;m not all that interested and haven&#039;t before now read one word of any of the other Potter books and she&#039;s pretty much interested in the Hendricks.

Bottom line:
Hendricks: in - damn that&#039;s different, smooth, creamy, complex and almost no bite.
Plymouth: this was not expected but I could replace this with beefeater
Bombay blue: still in, very nice, smooth, lots of complexity not a lot of bite
Bombay: you know very nice but I can tell the difference in a martini between regular and blue and for the five bucks difference for a 750 ml I think I&#039;ll snag the blue.
Beefeater: for $15 bucks and a nine smacker difference between the Plymouth I could swing the Beefeater - call me crazy.

Anyway, I tried to be brief, hope I wasn&#039;t too long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I took your reply to heart and, while I still had a little bit left in my bottles of Bombay Blue and Plymouth, I bought a bottle of regular Bombay and Beefeater.  I compared these four to Hendricks. Honestly, my goal was to like the Bombay regular and Beefeater the best.<br />
For a price comparison (before tax, all U.S. $ and all 750 ml except the Plymouth which is a one liter) here goes:<br />
Hendricks: $24.99<br />
Plymouth: $23.99<br />
Bombay Blue: $29.99<br />
Bombay: $15.99<br />
Beefeater: $14.99<br />
I tasted all straight at room temperature (I know, I know but I wanted a straight shot right out of the bottle).<br />
Hendricks: damn. smooth, complex (botanicals), creamy(?).  The wifey likey.<br />
I thought all the London drys had an astringent component to one degree or another<br />
Plymouth: sharp, balanced with some bite but not very botanical the wifey say okay but she&#8217;ll take the Hendricks.<br />
Bombay Blue: fair amount of alcohol bite but I thought it very complex with botanicals. The wifey likey<br />
Bombay regular: Smooth, low on botanicals not very complex.  Wifey no likey<br />
Beefeater: what the hell?!? Very smooth, light on the botanicals and not very complex. Wifey say, &#8220;Weak, gimme some Hendricks.&#8221;<br />
Ok, so Gin needs to be mixed &#8211; it&#8217;s not bourbon and never pretended to be. So, I mixed teeny tiny martinis with 0.5 oz gin, 0.25 dry vermouth (Martini Rossi &#8211; I think that this vermouth is not very overpowering and that&#8217;s why I used it.  My other vermouth is Noilly Prat which I find more flavourful), one dash of orange bitters (Reagans 6), two ice cubes stired for about 20 seconds and strained. Wifey and I shared (we&#8217;re close like that)</p>
<p>Hendricks: Damn, smooth, still creamy and it just tastes rounded not sharp, wifey likey.<br />
Plymouth: smooth, very smooth, ummm, too smooth? Wifey say, &#8220;Listen, I&#8217;m trying to cut a mango and make sure Cole (our 19 month old) doesn&#8217;t do something worthy of his last name with the cat out on the lanai now gimmee my Hendricks&#8221;<br />
Bombay Blue: smooth but complex as the botanicals come through<br />
Bombay: actually very nice, smooth, not as complex as the Bombay blue but very drinkable. Wifey likey (has settled down now that the cat has skeedoodled to a safe location).<br />
Beefeater: Hmmm, you know I think there&#8217;s a slight difference since I know what&#8217;s what but you could swap this out with the Plymouth and I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d complain. Wifey a bit miffed at me since I went ahead and read the last page of her Harry Potter book she got at midnight last night and now I know know how it ends all in the context of the fact that I&#8217;m not all that interested and haven&#8217;t before now read one word of any of the other Potter books and she&#8217;s pretty much interested in the Hendricks.</p>
<p>Bottom line:<br />
Hendricks: in &#8211; damn that&#8217;s different, smooth, creamy, complex and almost no bite.<br />
Plymouth: this was not expected but I could replace this with beefeater<br />
Bombay blue: still in, very nice, smooth, lots of complexity not a lot of bite<br />
Bombay: you know very nice but I can tell the difference in a martini between regular and blue and for the five bucks difference for a 750 ml I think I&#8217;ll snag the blue.<br />
Beefeater: for $15 bucks and a nine smacker difference between the Plymouth I could swing the Beefeater &#8211; call me crazy.</p>
<p>Anyway, I tried to be brief, hope I wasn&#8217;t too long.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Parry</title>
		<link>http://www.cocktailnerd.com/2007/06/last-nights-dogbite-tart-gin-cooler/comment-page-1/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Parry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a related note and speaking of grapefruit, I&#039;ve tried the Jasmine Cocktail as listed below listed from Drink Boy&#039;s site:

    * 1 1/2 ounces gin
    * 1 ounce Cointreau
    * 3/4 ounce Campari
    * 1/2 ounce lemon juice
http://www.drinkboy.com/Cocktails/recipes/Jasmine.html

Also featured on Rob Hess&#039;s Small Screen Network show the Cocktail Spirit:
http://www.smallscreennetwork.com/


I&#039;ll have to try the Jasmine Cocktail recipe with a dash or two of Pechyaud&#039;s and a splash of tonic a la Tart Gin Cooler. Or maybe a splash of soda water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a related note and speaking of grapefruit, I&#8217;ve tried the Jasmine Cocktail as listed below listed from Drink Boy&#8217;s site:</p>
<p>    * 1 1/2 ounces gin<br />
    * 1 ounce Cointreau<br />
    * 3/4 ounce Campari<br />
    * 1/2 ounce lemon juice<br />
<a href="http://www.drinkboy.com/Cocktails/recipes/Jasmine.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.drinkboy.com/Cocktails/recipes/Jasmine.html</a></p>
<p>Also featured on Rob Hess&#8217;s Small Screen Network show the Cocktail Spirit:<br />
<a href="http://www.smallscreennetwork.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.smallscreennetwork.com/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to try the Jasmine Cocktail recipe with a dash or two of Pechyaud&#8217;s and a splash of tonic a la Tart Gin Cooler. Or maybe a splash of soda water.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there are really two parts to the question; &#039;London Dry&#039; is a designation of the gin&#039;s production style/method and &#039;dry&#039; is an indication of taste/character.

Gin originated in Holland in the 17th century (as &#039;Genever&#039;) but after the column still was invented in the early 1800s, London distilleries developed their own process and style of gin production that led to the &#039;London Dry&#039; (and FAR more prevalent) style of production. London Dry is so prevalent that most recipes assume London Dry when they state &#039;gin&#039;. In truth, &#039;Plymouth gin&#039; is the only other recognized English &#039;style&#039;, but other gins (such as Hendrick&#039;s, Citadelle, Magellan, etc.) that may use the column still method but not feature the same primary flavor profiles are coming into their own and you&#039;re seeing them featured more often.

You&#039;ll notice that neither your Hendrick&#039;s nor Plymouth bottles designate them as &#039;London Dry&#039; but your Bombay Sapphire does. That being said, both Hendrick&#039;s and Plymouth are sweeter in character (though the Plymouth finishes damned dry) than almost any London Dry gins I&#039;ve had. So, while you might find a gin designated &#039;London Dry&#039; that&#039;s sweeter in character than non-London Dry designated gin, I think you&#039;d be hard-pressed to do it. The &#039;Big 3&#039; of premium London Drys are Beefeater, Bombay, and Tanqueray (Gordon&#039;s, Booth&#039;s, Boodles, and Llords are examples of others at varying levels of quality).

The Dutch-style Genever is a whole other subject I&#039;ll do a piece on soon. Anyone have anything to add or have I missed something? There are certainly some grey areas here I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there are really two parts to the question; &#8216;London Dry&#8217; is a designation of the gin&#8217;s production style/method and &#8216;dry&#8217; is an indication of taste/character.</p>
<p>Gin originated in Holland in the 17th century (as &#8216;Genever&#8217;) but after the column still was invented in the early 1800s, London distilleries developed their own process and style of gin production that led to the &#8216;London Dry&#8217; (and FAR more prevalent) style of production. London Dry is so prevalent that most recipes assume London Dry when they state &#8216;gin&#8217;. In truth, &#8216;Plymouth gin&#8217; is the only other recognized English &#8217;style&#8217;, but other gins (such as Hendrick&#8217;s, Citadelle, Magellan, etc.) that may use the column still method but not feature the same primary flavor profiles are coming into their own and you&#8217;re seeing them featured more often.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll notice that neither your Hendrick&#8217;s nor Plymouth bottles designate them as &#8216;London Dry&#8217; but your Bombay Sapphire does. That being said, both Hendrick&#8217;s and Plymouth are sweeter in character (though the Plymouth finishes damned dry) than almost any London Dry gins I&#8217;ve had. So, while you might find a gin designated &#8216;London Dry&#8217; that&#8217;s sweeter in character than non-London Dry designated gin, I think you&#8217;d be hard-pressed to do it. The &#8216;Big 3&#8242; of premium London Drys are Beefeater, Bombay, and Tanqueray (Gordon&#8217;s, Booth&#8217;s, Boodles, and Llords are examples of others at varying levels of quality).</p>
<p>The Dutch-style Genever is a whole other subject I&#8217;ll do a piece on soon. Anyone have anything to add or have I missed something? There are certainly some grey areas here I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Parry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Parry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What sorts of gins do you classify as &quot;Dry&quot;?  I usually keep Hendrick&#039;s, Bombay Sapphire, and Plymouth.  I think of Plymouth as the &quot;dry&quot; one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What sorts of gins do you classify as &#8220;Dry&#8221;?  I usually keep Hendrick&#8217;s, Bombay Sapphire, and Plymouth.  I think of Plymouth as the &#8220;dry&#8221; one.</p>
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