Fight Night!: Premium Gins – Vol. I
Fight Night!, Gins, Spirits July 10th, 2007
I received my first free product sample as a result of my blog writing yesterday. And, on top of that, I received my first piece of correspondence addressing me as ‘The Cocktail Nerd‘. Heady times indeed! The product I was sent is a newly-developed gin called G’Vine Gin. The tag-line found under the tasting notes card states, ‘If you don’t like traditional gin, you will love G’Vine.’ Fair enough, but for the record, I happen to love traditional gin so I assume I’m free to not love G’Vine. And, as a side note, I wonder at the wisdom of warning almost everyone who does like traditional gin away from their product, because that’s the corrollary to their statement, ‘If you do like traditional gin, this probably isn’t for you.’ But, marketing’s not my game and I know for a fact there are plenty of people who won’t go near a gin bottle; so they may be right.
So, the first question for me, and I took it very seriously, was how to write a fair and complete product review. Now, I don’t consider my palate with any spirit to be sensitive and trained enough to suss out the flavors and bouquet of a gin on its own. Though, if there’s any spirit with which I consider myself versed in and know what I like and to look for, it’s gin, so that’s a start1 . So:
Selection/Samples: I decided my process needed to be as scientific as possible in terms of having products to compare G’Vine to that 1: are similar in quality and 2: I am highly familiar with and/or also seek to achieve G’Vine’s same distinctive quality from ‘traditional’ gins. So, it was in this spirit I selected Bombay Sapphire Gin, a gin with which I am extremely familiar and which aspires to be the quintessential ‘London Dry’ gin, as a sort of ‘control’ group; Van Gogh Gin, a gin with which I’m very familiar but also seeks to differentiate itself from traditional London Dry gin; and, of course, the G’Vine product which was completely new and foreign to me. Now:
Methodology: well… shit; I have to come up with a freaking process. Hmmmmmm, I read somewhere about a method of culling out the bouquet of a gin… Oh yes, Bingo! So, I’ll pour a half ounce of each into a small rocks glass, swirl them, and take notes on their bouquets. Now as far as the tasting is concerned, a warning in my brain resounded from this post regarding relying too heavily on testing gins solely on their qualities when served ‘neat’. But, I still wanted to taste them at their most bare, so I decided after the ‘cupping’ process to release the aromas I would sample each of them neat from the already poured half ounce. But, that leaves finding out their character within a cocktail to be dealt with. I didn’t want anything too complex but I did want it to be a drink that had both sweet and tart or bitter characteristics but still featured the gin. I went with mixing a Gin Gin Highball for each gin after the ‘neat’ taste:
Gin Gin Highball2
- 1 1/2 oz gin
- 5 oz ginger ale (I reduced it to 4 oz and used White Rock Ginger Ale – lighter than most)
- 2 dashes Angostura bitters
- lemon peel, for garnish
Build in a highball glass over ice. Stir well and garnish with the lemon peel.
The samples and process determined, we begin (hang on a sec, I’ll grab my notes…).
Bombay Sapphire Gin:
Bombay Sapphire is distributed by Bacardi and uses a distillation process whereby the alcohol vapors are passed through a bundle containing 10 herbs and spices where it builds its flavor and bouquet. It describes itself as smooth and delicate and as having the absence of any harsh alcohol sensation as well as, paradoxically, being both full-bodied and light-bodied ‘in mouth’. Versus in one’s pants I suppose.
Bombay Sapphire used to be one of my favorite gins, but as my palate and experience with cocktails grow I find myself more drawn to regular Bombay, Plymouth, and other gins more on the drier side. So, we shall see.
Cupping/Bouquet: Bombay Sapphire hs a very strong juniper scent with heavy coriander and citrus notes. There is a sense of alcohol there, but overall the nose of the herbs and spices dominate.
‘Neat’ Tasting: This has a very very long finish that is smooth, however this is after a sharp front where a mild alcohol ‘burn’ is present. In terms of flavor and body it mostly settles into a full-bodied experience with a lot of berry notes blending as the flavor develops and progresses. The peppery and coriander tastes I was expecting from the smell of it weren’t nearly as prevalent as I thought they would be.
Cocktail Tasting: This is where the strength of the gin and its dryness really come through. The sweetness of the ginger ale was all but drowned out by the Bombay Sapphire, and oddly enough, the peppery/coriander notes I caught from the scent were back; causing it to blend with the bitters nicely. However, at the end of the day, my wife and I agreed that the Sapphire seems to have prevented the drink from coming completely together based on comparing it to the others, especially the Van Gogh.
Van Gogh Gin:
Van Gogh gin is ‘hand-crafted’ in Holland, is also triple-distilled, and also uses 10 botanicals and herbs in its distillation process for flavor. My in-laws are great fans of this gin and I’ve certainly noticed it’s never steered me wrong in mixing drinks even though it isn’t as strongly-flavored or dry as the Bombay line, Beefeater, or Plymouth gins.
This gin does try to depart from the London Dry style and doesn’t reach for the strong juniper emphasis that style requires but is closer to that family of spirits than traditional Dutch genevers. In terms of ‘premium’ quality this is closer to the G’Vine in its price tag than the Bombay Sapphire which may become important if you’re looking at those two products side-by-side.
Cupping/Bouquet: Van Gogh is the highest-proof gin of this lot (94 proof) and the nose is almost entirely of isopropyl alcohol. It’s actually rather uncanny and if caught in a pinch, this is what I’d use to tend to a wound. To be fair there is a bit of apple and pepper in the background, but wow.
‘Neat’ Tasting: Van Gogh has a very different texture than the Bombay, which was light, and comes across the tongue as slightly oily. This isn’t unpleasant at all and is probably responsible for the lack of alcohol burn I experienced with the Sapphire. As it finishes a lot of fruit and citrus flavors come out that seem more complex than the apple I took from the cupping process.
Cocktail Tasting: This gin is much lighter and complementary in the drink than the Bombay. In fact, Joana and I both were astounded at how well the gin retained its character and yet brought the drink together seamlessly and effortlessly. There was no fighting among the ingredients and the balance of the gin against the ginger ale (sweet) and the bitters was note-perfect. You hate to use this as a mixer, but I’ve rarely found a gin that didn’t get overly subdued perform so well. Joana mentioned the drink was almost Pimm’s Cup-ish in its refreshing and smooth quality. It’s a shame this company is spending an inordinate amount of time and money promoting its flavored vodkas; this is sublime.
G’Vine Gin:

This gin uses a three-part process in which the base neutral spirit is first distilled from Ugni Blanc grapes grown in the Cognac region of France and infused with the macerated green grape flower. Then, a separate non-infused batch of the neutral grape spirit is distilled in small batches using nine botanicals and herbs in a similar process as London Dry gins undergo. Finally, in the third step, the infused spirit, the botanical distillate, and more of the neutral spirit are combined and distilled once again to reach the final product.
As you can probably guess, all of this additional labor and process will be reflected in the price of this ultra-premium gin.The marketing materials make no bones about and do not apologize for this gin being targeted at those who don’t like the London Dry-style of gin and/or prefer vodka as a mixer. It’s obvious from the literature and website that the product’s main features should be smoothness and a distinctive character. Let’s see.
Cupping/Bouquet: Holy juniper-berry Batman! This is very floral and sweet in its character and unlike anything I’ve been exposed to. There’s some of the isopropyl alcohol scent I got from the Van Gogh but it is heavily smothered with candied-fruit, floral, and licorice notes.
‘Neat’ Tasting: This is extremely smooth, much like the character of Ciroc vodka (also distilled from grapes). There’s an oiliness with none of the alcohol burn of the Bombay. It’s not as full-bodied or as dry as either of the others but it is very distinctive in its floral, ginger, and licorice flavors.
Cocktail Tasting: Ok here’s the deal; this gin completely changes the character of the drink. It doesn’t make it a bad drink mind you, not at all, but I would strongly recommend avoiding just swapping this gin out for another in a recipe; you’ll have a completely different creature than you expect. I will say that the strength of the floral, and almost perfume-y, flavors in this product overwhelmed this particular drink. My wife commented several times that it reminds her of a high-quality flavored tea. It’s much less dry than the other gins, and I think the bottom line is that this should almost be treated as a florally-infused vodka with some relation to gin. You know, like a 2nd cousin to gin. The quality of the product comes through but this needs to be handled carefully in developing recipes around it. And I can definitely see this being enjoyed straight up.
In the final equation this was a great exercise in demonstrating how when dealing with different ingredients with differing characters it’s vitally important to know those characteristics intimately and adjust accordingly. Now, you and I probably already knew that, but this just reinforces and puts into bas relief just how important that principle is in developing and mixing drinks. The G’Vine gin has a place at establishments serving luxury and innovative cocktails, however, great care needs to be taken in how it’s used and it needs to have drinks developed that feature it versus it being used as a ‘call’ spirit or an upsell opportunity to guests. So, until next time, I’ll be waiting for it to make its way to Oklahoma. It might be awhile.







Why the preference of regular Bombay over Sapphire?
And speaking of taste testing. I check out this site every so often to see what this guy thinks.
http://www.alcoholreviews.com/SPIRITS/SPIRITSBYTYPE.shtml
Interesting post. It reinforces the impression that I’ve been getting lately that I’ve fallen into a rut with my beloved Sapphire. Unfortunately for the makers of G’Vine, your test is going to prompt me to try a bottle of Van Gogh! I drank some way back when I was first getting into cocktails, about the time that Van Gogh came out. It seemed a bit strange for my taste then, but I should give it a shot again now that I have some (well… sigh… a lot more) experience.
I may have trouble selling my wife on the Van Gogh however, if the nose is as strongly alcohol-laden as you say. She likes cocktails that taste strong, but she won’t drink them if they have that raw alcohol note. It’ll be fun to try… if I can find a small enough bottle to keep the experiment in a reasonable price range.
Mark: It’s a complex question, but for me it comes down to a basic cost:value ratio. For me, regular Bombay has all the body, flavors, and qualities I need when I want a mixed drink with a good, strong, and classic gin flavor (also Boodles and Beefeater meet this criteria for me) without spending the extra ducats. Whereas, half the time, when I use Bombay Sapphire it overpowers the drink and fights the blending required for good balance. So, top to bottom I prefer regular Bombay as my go-to quality gin for mixing. And, if I wanted to drink one straight, I wouldn’t go to Sapphire, at that price point there are better options.
Doug: The alcohol stringency is strictly in the nose with the Van Gogh, and only when it’s neat. It seems as soon as it’s mixed or diluted in the slightest it loses its alcohol notes and becomes a wonderful gin. I’ve tested the ‘isopropyl’ effect on it three separate times with three separate bottles and it’s uncanny how much it comes through that way. Once it’s in the drink, it’s lovely. The price of it is a problem. I buy it as a gift, rarely for myself.
To quote Eliza Doolittle, “Gin was mother’s milk to her.” That said, I keep at least three different gins in the freezer at all times: Beefeater, Plymouth, and Brokers. Beefeater is still for me that classic dry gin, but Brokers is somehow drier and crisper yet, and I go for that when I want a Martini with the extra punch. Meanwhile, Plymouth treads a finer path, and with less alcohol, it makes a fine, subtle alternative (and marries well in a dirty Martini). I agree with Gabriel about regular Bombay, as it makes a superlative G&T that is neither cloying or overpowering. Another very interesting gin for the G&T is Tanqueray Rangpur, as it has lime in its aromatics — not for the faint of heart or liver.
When going out, however, I generally opt for something I don’t usually keep on hand, like Hendricks or Tanqueray 10. I also like Gale Force, but, being from Nantucket, it is not easy to find. I keep forgetting about Boodles, but that, too, is a classic dry for me.
I can’t even get Broker’s here, but I’m traveling soon and will have to keep it in mind.
Joana and I have talked about buying and trying Tanqueray Rangpur as it sounds really interesting and I trust Tanqueray’s product. She’s a fan of the Dirty Martini so I’ll have to try the Plymouth with it.
I really like Boodles, I just tend not to stock it as other purchases take precedence. It looks like you strongly come down on the ‘It’s ok to store Gin in the freezer for mixing’ side of the Freezer vs. Non-freezer debate (and I think I remember you recommending trying just that in your book for one’s Martini). Can you expand on that and cover the ‘lack of ice dilution’ subject if you have the chance?
It helps that I keep a 19th century silver cocktail shaker in the freezer, too, along with my Riedel crystal glasses. Just a few shakes, and you have a frigid Martini with just the right amount of dilution. I know that some purists preferred the stirred Martini, but I defer to Lowell Edmunds, among others, that a martini should be cold. Stirring does not do that for me, as the ice tends to dilute the gin a bit too much. By the time I get to the bottom of my first Martini, the olives (Picholines, and Luques when in season) are even firmer from the chill.
Cool, Gabriel. You did the gin tasting I should have done, and I’ll have to remember your cupping technique the next time around.
And thanks for the link, by the way.
[...] Just a quick note to say that Gabriel, from Cocktailnerd, did the kind of gin tasting that I should have done. So if you haven’t already seen his post, pop over for a look. [...]
You’re quite welcome, Michael; I’ve enjoyed your site for quite awhile, and thank you in kind. I felt very good about the tasting process we used and your post helped me avoid going with a neat-only tasting.
Wow, how to get this lot of sausages excited? Talk about Gin!
I liked the G’Vine but it needs its own cocktail,which that cocktail could be great and unique (like the Richmond Gimlet-hats off to the person responsible for that one). I really thought the jasmine tea taste was interesting; it reminded me of a good viognier without icky white wine flavor.
Hey there boys, I think we just got called a bunch of sausages!
And Jo, Jeffrey Morgenthaler (www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com) is responsible for the Richmond Gimlet, and he’s not shy about how good it is.
Trying the G’Vine in a Jasmine cocktail might be interesting actually: http://www.drinkboy.com/Cocktails/recipes/Jasmine.html
Great post, Gabriel! Bombay Sapphire is my everyday gin, and is still my favorite in a Martini. I generally haven’t been too wild about the new “big” gins, but posts like this one always make me want to keep trying.
And if you haven’t tried it yet, I urge you to get your hands on some Old Raj. I think it straddles the line between floral and crisp really well, and the saffron flavor is definitely distinctive. It ain’t cheap, but it’s worth investing in a bottle. if you feel like adding something special to your gin collection.
Great post! There are so many gins out there nowadays it is hard to keep up with them all, and I would love to see more thorough reviews of gins like this which consider the spirit and its use in a cocktail. I too love gin and am tempted to run out there and try them all, but I know what I like and can kind of weed out certain products this way.
I also want to echo the doctor’s comments and urge you to get your hands on some Old Raj. It is my favorite gin by far. It works well in some cocktails and poorly in others because of its saffron flavor, but it is awesome on the rocks and, well man, all this typing made me want some right now. Gin at 5:00 am? Bad idea maybe tomorrow…
Thanks Robert, and I agree; this is the type of in-depth comparison I’d like to see more of as well. Very rarely do I see review that tell me enough about the character and flavor profiles of gins to not feel like I’m still flying a bit blind in buying them.
As for Old Raj, hell yes. Everyone from Imbibe, to Dr. Bamboo, to yourself has heartily recommended it – and if you can’t trust all of those, who can you trust – so as soon as I find it when traveling, it’s coming home with me; damned the price. Now, just make it a G&T and tell everyone you’re worrited about malaria what with the gulf humidity and heat bringing on the mosquitos.
G’vine gin recently won the “Best Tasting Gin” award, but I don’t quite get it either. It’s very good, but it’s somewhat tough to call it a gin.
I don’t quite understanding it winning the ‘Best Tasting Gin’ award, as you say, it’s very good but a bit too much off the traditional gin mark for an award like that. I wonder which publication/organization it was giving the award; I’d like to read more on their thinking.
This is exactly what I expected to find out after reading the title Fight Night!: Premium Gins – Vol. I – A blog of most things cocktail and alcohol related. Thanks for informative article
[...] decided to follow the same tasting and testing process I did in Vol. I, evaluating the gins based on ‘cupping’, a neat tasting, and a mixed drink. The wife [...]